Long time "helper", first time brewer
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Long time "helper", first time brewer
Normally I don't hop on message boards but I have "helped" a friend (drank his beer and critiqued his process) enough to know that you need all the help you can get. The wife unit and I have been hitting up lots of breweries due the purchase of a Hop Passport, and now I wanted to give brewing a whirl myself. Starting small and hoping to nail it with the Brew Demon kit before moving on to bigger and better things. I've got the pilsner fermenting away as we speak at 70 degrees in the basement.
I do have a question about priming sugar. I am going to let the beer set in primary for 2 weeks. Due to other things going on I have to bottle at that time. I am then going to let the beer sit in the 1 liter bottles for 2 weeks. Using the Northern Brewer priming sugar calculator, the standard amount of sugar looks to be about twice what the calculator is saying I should use. I know the PET bottles can handle lots of carbonation, but since I will be in bottles at 70 degrees for 2 weeks, I was wondering should I lower the sugar added to match the czech pilsner found in the calculator. It would end up being ~1 1/4 tsp instead of the 2 1/2 tsp Brew Demon calls out. I would prefer not to over-carbonate just because I will not be able to actively monitor the batch. The batch will also be contained just in case there is a blowout before I can get to it.
I do have a question about priming sugar. I am going to let the beer set in primary for 2 weeks. Due to other things going on I have to bottle at that time. I am then going to let the beer sit in the 1 liter bottles for 2 weeks. Using the Northern Brewer priming sugar calculator, the standard amount of sugar looks to be about twice what the calculator is saying I should use. I know the PET bottles can handle lots of carbonation, but since I will be in bottles at 70 degrees for 2 weeks, I was wondering should I lower the sugar added to match the czech pilsner found in the calculator. It would end up being ~1 1/4 tsp instead of the 2 1/2 tsp Brew Demon calls out. I would prefer not to over-carbonate just because I will not be able to actively monitor the batch. The batch will also be contained just in case there is a blowout before I can get to it.
In the fridge: nothing
Conditioning: MrBeer Northwest Pale Ale, Brickwarmer Holiday Red
Fermenting: Black Magic Dark Mild
On Deck:
Conditioning: MrBeer Northwest Pale Ale, Brickwarmer Holiday Red
Fermenting: Black Magic Dark Mild
On Deck:
Re: Long time "helper", first time brewer
Brew Demon and Mr. Beer recommend a lot more priming sugar then is required for many styles. Carb levels are style specific as you noticed on that calculator. But Mr. Beer and Brew Demon have to throw out a one size fits all amount for simplicity. The amount they suggest is more of a wheat beer carb level. I think it's just because Americans are used to really fizzy soft drinks and tend to prefer an over carbonated beer to an under carbonated one and they don't want to hear people complain about "flat" beer.
If you want to be more accurate to style, then use the style appropriate amounts of sugar, like the calculator suggests.
If you know that you prefer more fizz, then go with what Mr. Beer suggests.
I personally generally prefer a slightly undercarbonted beer vs. an overcarbonated one, except in styles where really high carb levels bring balance due to the "bite" (wheat beers, some Belgians), but everyone is different. I like British cask poured beers, which many people would just think of as "flat".
If you want to be more accurate to style, then use the style appropriate amounts of sugar, like the calculator suggests.
If you know that you prefer more fizz, then go with what Mr. Beer suggests.
I personally generally prefer a slightly undercarbonted beer vs. an overcarbonated one, except in styles where really high carb levels bring balance due to the "bite" (wheat beers, some Belgians), but everyone is different. I like British cask poured beers, which many people would just think of as "flat".
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Re: Long time "helper", first time brewer
priming sugar should be weighed not measured ...
that said ... the 1 1/4 tsp dose looks about right
Here's why ...
1 tsp white sugar ~= 4.2g
1 Domino Dot = 2.5g
Back in the day ... I'd carb with Dots and put 2 per 1-L
Carbed it was nice but no way close to fizzy
Now ...
2 Dots = 5g
1 1/4 tsp white sugar = 5.3g
The difference be no biggie.
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that said ... the 1 1/4 tsp dose looks about right
Here's why ...
1 tsp white sugar ~= 4.2g
1 Domino Dot = 2.5g
Back in the day ... I'd carb with Dots and put 2 per 1-L
Carbed it was nice but no way close to fizzy
Now ...
2 Dots = 5g
1 1/4 tsp white sugar = 5.3g
The difference be no biggie.
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Warranties neither expressed nor implied
User assumes all risk
Not intended for use by children
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Re: Long time "helper", first time brewer
Welcome aboard Michael!
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Re: Long time "helper", first time brewer
Eventually I will get to doing everything by weight. I just don't feel like purchasing a scale that does 10th of a gram yet.HerbMeowing wrote:priming sugar should be weighed not measured ...
In the fridge: nothing
Conditioning: MrBeer Northwest Pale Ale, Brickwarmer Holiday Red
Fermenting: Black Magic Dark Mild
On Deck:
Conditioning: MrBeer Northwest Pale Ale, Brickwarmer Holiday Red
Fermenting: Black Magic Dark Mild
On Deck:
Re: Long time "helper", first time brewer
You can get them for less than $10 on Amazon.MichaelJ wrote:Eventually I will get to doing everything by weight. I just don't feel like purchasing a scale that does 10th of a gram yet.HerbMeowing wrote:priming sugar should be weighed not measured ...
Re: Long time "helper", first time brewer
Yeah, I know the cost isn't much. I was going to avoid buying at this time but I probably should. I am just being lazy really.bpgreen wrote:You can get them for less than $10 on Amazon.MichaelJ wrote: Eventually I will get to doing everything by weight. I just don't feel like purchasing a scale that does 10th of a gram yet.
I have a LBK on the way that I am going to use as my bottling vessel. With a priming solution instead of per-bottle sugar I believe I can get away with a slightly less accurate measurement with my current scale. Also I will be able to sterilize the sugar before bottling.
In the fridge: nothing
Conditioning: MrBeer Northwest Pale Ale, Brickwarmer Holiday Red
Fermenting: Black Magic Dark Mild
On Deck:
Conditioning: MrBeer Northwest Pale Ale, Brickwarmer Holiday Red
Fermenting: Black Magic Dark Mild
On Deck:
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Re: Long time "helper", first time brewer
2nd LBK for bottling must be a good idea b/c I too have one.
Do you have a bottling wand?
Do you have a bottling wand?
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Re: Long time "helper", first time brewer
I do. I got the Brew Demon kit that included the bottling wand. I have also ordered a BD spigot for use with the tube and wand from the LBK.
In the fridge: nothing
Conditioning: MrBeer Northwest Pale Ale, Brickwarmer Holiday Red
Fermenting: Black Magic Dark Mild
On Deck:
Conditioning: MrBeer Northwest Pale Ale, Brickwarmer Holiday Red
Fermenting: Black Magic Dark Mild
On Deck: